- The Mamiya 330 – A TLR Legend. The Rolleiflex 2.8f vs Mamiya C330F? Most would give the TLR “legend” status to the Rolleiflex 2.8. And I primarily agree. But comparing the images, the build, the price point and the extensive lens availability, and the Mamiya C330 will actually more than hold it’s own in a head to head competition.
- The Mamiya 330 – A TLR Legend. The Rolleiflex 2.8f vs Mamiya C330F? Most would give the TLR “legend” status to the Rolleiflex 2.8. And I primarily agree. But comparing the images, the build, the price point and the extensive lens availability, and the Mamiya C330 will actually more than hold it’s own in a head to head competition.
Serial number 【 30073, 29959 】 Appearance Appperance is beautiful, very tiny scuffs from normal use. It's signs of use.Please check photos. Optics Beautiful condition. There is a few very thin fog on the lens, but it dose NOT affect on shooting. There is no fungus.
Mamiya C-Series Cameras
The Mamiya C-series TLRs have been around for quite some time, with the original Mamiyaflex C being released in 1956 or 1957. Shortly after that, the line split into two with the C2 and the C3 (the latter being the slightly more advanced model). Subsequent generations continued in this fashion with the C22/C33, and finally C220/C330 and variants (C220f, C330f, C330s).
After the Rolleicord III stole my heart, there was very little chance that it would be my last TLR. The
next focal point for my obsession was the Mamiya C330. After much searching on eBay and Craigslist, I found a near-perfect specimen sporting a Mamiya-Sekor 80mm f/2.8 'Blue Dot' lens pair.
This particular model (with no suffix) was in production from 1969 to 1974. It had several improvements over its predecessor the C33, including support for both 120 and 220 film (by rotating a plate on the film door), and interchangeable focus screens.
What attracted me to the C330 in the first place was primarily the interchangeable lens system, which is pretty unique to TLRs; in fact the Mamiya C-series is one of only three systems with that feature, and with an entry cost ranging from about $150 to about $400 at the high end, it's the only one that doesn't currently cost as much as a decent used car.
So how does it fare in the real world, and do you want to buy one? (Spoiler: awesome, and yes)
Overall Feel
It is a bit bigger (and heavier) than many of the other TLR offerings out there, including the Rolleicord. It's built like an absolute tank, intent on taking any and all abuse thrown at it by professional photographers. Everything about it feels heavy duty, even changing out the lens feels more like changing a tire than handling high end optics. At the same time, if you love cameras like I do, you will love the way this camera looks and feels in your hands. It's just beautiful.
Handholding takes a little getting used to, especially if you're not accustomed to TLRs. I think everyone has their own preference, but I personally 'cradle' the camera in both hands along the bottom, which puts both of the shutter release buttons within reach and allows my fingers to naturally rest by the focusing knob. It also helps to mitigate the weight a little bit and improve handheld stability.
Interchangeable Lenses
All of the C-series lens pairs will fit any model. Seven different focal lengths are available (50mm f/4.5, 65mm f/3.5, 80mm f/2.8, 105mm f/3.5, 135mm f/4.5, 180mm f/4.5, 250mm f/4.5) although there are a number of variations within that set popping up over the years, some with improved optics over the previous versions but all retaining their maximum aperture.
The 'everything' dial: Lens change lock, Film speed and film type reminders, and parallax correction dial |
The new lens can then be placed on the camera (taking care to ensure that it's sitting flush and that the shutter cocking lever on the camera is correctly positioned above the one on the lens), the retaining bar returned to its position, and the dial returned to the
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It turns out that I actually hardly ever swap out the lenses, opting instead to keep the 80mm f/2.8 on the camera 90% of the time. If I knew then what I do now (namely that I wouldn't change out the lenses nearly as often as I had originally thought), would I have still bought this camera? Probably, yes. I think part of my problem is just that I shouldn't have bought the second lens that I did, the 65mm f/3.5. It's an excellent lens, but it's too close to the 80mm to make that much of a difference -- I could just back up a few steps and get basically the same effect. Okay, maybe not with landscapes. But you get the idea. I probably should have held out for the 55mm.
Focusing System and Parallax
This is one of the other great benefits of the C-series TLRs: the bellows focusing system. As was discussed in a recent post about extension tubes, the more distance you add between the lens and the film plane, the closer you can get to your subject and keep it in focus. The flexible bellows of the C-series allows for an extension that's quite a bit better than other systems, meaning close focus is built in to the body, regardless of the lens you're using (although, much like extension tubes, the effect is far more pronounced on wider lenses than longer ones). The very unscientific test I did just now suggests that the minimum focus distance of the 65mm lens is somewhere around 3 or 4 inches.
Bellows focusing system allows for unusually close minimum focusing distance |
Luckily, the C330 has ways to combat this. For parallax error, the best (though least convenient) method is the 'Paramender' accessory, which requires a tripod. It's placed between the tripod head and the camera, and after the photo has been dialed in, focused, and set up exactly as desired in the finder, the Paramender is extended, effectively raising the camera along the film plane by the exact distance between the two lenses. This puts the taking lens in the exact place where the viewing lens was when the shot was set up.
The camera itself also has a parallax correction tool, but this is a bit more error prone. There is a
Moss growing on a tree branch, shot using the close focusing capability of the C330. You can also see this image on Flickr. |
Serial Number Lookup Model
The same horizontal guide also acts as a needle that points to a series of exposure compensation values along the left side of the finder, ranging from '1.5' to '3'. The closer you focus, the farther down the guide moves. Before you take the picture, you look at the number closest to the guide. If it's pointing at '1.5' then you need to increase your exposure by 50% (half a stop). If it's pointing at '2', then you need to double your exposure (increase by one stop), and so on.
The C330 has interchangeable focus screens. However, I've only used the one that came with mine, which is the 4° split image rangefinder. If the C330 is anything like the RZ67, it came with a plain matte screen, which is exactly the same as the split image rangefinder screen just without the center spot. Daylight focusing with the plain matte screen is pretty easy to achieve since it really 'pops' noticeably into focus, but in lower light conditions a split image rangefinder is pretty hard to beat.
Waist-level viewfinder with split-prism rangefinder in the center and the close-focusing exposure compensation values visible on the left. |
You can also frame your subject using the 'sports finder', built in to the finder hood. By folding down the center of the front piece, you open up a window that approximates the view of the 80mm lens (a further adjustment allows for the 65mm field of view). You then looks through a smaller hole at the back of the finder hood, looking forward through the larger opening. This allows you to frame your subject without the finder screen. However, it provides no method of focusing, so I can imagine that this is only really useful when shooting at small apertures with sufficient distance to put the subject in the hyperfocal range.
Automatic Exposure
Nope. Bring a light meter, or go with sunny/16. I have a free phone app that does a reasonable approximation of a reflective light meter in the few tests I've done comparing it to the spot meter in a Sekonic L-508, so that might be an option if nothing else is available.
Shutters
The C330 doesn't have its own shutter. The fully mechanical shutters are located in the lenses themselves, and from what I've seen they consistently offer shutter speeds ranging from 1/500 sec. up to 1 sec., plus bulb. There are two shutter release buttons, one lever that can be press down and a button on the bottom that can be pressed. The button has threads for a standard plunger-style remote release cable. There is a lock slider that will keep the shutter releases from being pressed inadvertently.
There are two flash sync modes that allow for flash sync across the full range of shutter speeds. Personally, I haven't yet used this camera with a flash so I haven't had a need for these.
Film Advance
The C330 has a crank advance, with each frame requiring a 360° crank. This is one of the differences between the C330 and the C220, which uses a knob advance. Additionally, the C220 requires the user to manually cock the shutter by pressing down on the lever on the lens in between each shot. The C330 does this automatically when the user winds the crank. A dial adjacent to the crank allows the user to set single or multiple exposure modes. In single exposure mode, the camera will lock out the shutter controls after firing, until the crank is advanced to the next frame. In the multiple exposure mode, there is no lockout. The shutter can be fired at will, without advancing the film.
The C330 In Use
So finally we get to the really important part: the C330 in use. Personally, I do very little in the way of portraits at this point, so most of my photos with the C330 are landscapes or (most often) random things of mild interest.
The C330, or some would say TLRs in general, really make you slow down and think a bit before taking a picture. The spray & pray digital 'technique' doesn't work here. And I can tell you, if you've gotten into that rut like I once did, nothing will improve your photography more than forcing yourself to be more selective and start thinking hard about your subject, your surroundings, your light, etc. After all, between film cost and development cost (assuming you're not developing your own) you're probably looking at about $1 per frame, maybe more.
Best Lens For Mamiya C330
Outdoors (or indoors with great light), the waist-level finder will do a fine job of showing you when your subject is in focus. Care should still be taken, especially at wider apertures, because minute changes can throw off the focus by just enough to annoy you to no end.
Camera shake is another issue, and personally I've found it difficult to handhold at speeds below about 1/60 sec. Even then I need to brace carefully and hold my breath.
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The weight isn't all that noticeable for me in day-to-day usage, largely because I'm already accustomed to carrying a fully equipped Canon 5D Mark III, with battery pack and two batteries and a good sized L lens, with me wherever I go. If you're used to walking around with a Rollei 35 or similar compact camera with you, or even a smaller SLR/DSLR, you may find it bulky at first. You'll get used to it though.
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Both of my lenses, particularly the 80mm, operate a bit too slow with the slowest shutter speeds. A 1-second exposure actually runs about half a stop slow. The problem is basically nonexistent by around 1/5, and at any rate I will be having them adjusted when I bring in the camera for a CLA in the near future.
(View on Flickr) |
Happily, Mamiya makes the instruction manuals for all of their old cameras available online in PDF for, so if you're interested in buying one, I'd recommend doing what I did and download the Mamiya C330 Instruction Manual and give it a good once over so you know what you're getting.
And then get one, because you'll absolutely love it!
Questions? Corrections? Feel free to post a comment below!
C330 with one of the gripholders
The Mamiya C330 Professional is a traditional film twin-lens reflex camera introduced in the 1970s for the professional and advanced amateur photography markets. This model was 340 grams lighter than the previous model C33, which weighed 2040 grams (with 80 mm lens). The later C330f is an improvement on the C330 and was succeeded by the C330S with further improvements.
- Uses 120 and 220 rollfilms
- With the rack and pinion bellows type focusing system, close-up photography is possible without attachments.
- Has a self-cocking one action 360° winding crank with a double exposure prevention device. Double exposure is also possible. The straight filmroll path has no right-angle turn and guarantees an absolutely flat film.
- The backplate is changeable for single-exposure photography
- Dimensions: 122 (w) × 168 (h) × 114 (d)
- Weight: 1.7 kg (with standard lens)
The Mamiya C-series cameras are one of the very few twin-lens reflex cameras with interchangeable lenses, along with the Koni-Omegaflex and Zeiss Contaflex.
- Extended bellows for close-ups
- Focusing hood and changeable screen
- Film compartment with adjustable filmplate and changeable backplate
Lenses[edit]
Mamiya TLR lenses
There are seven Mamiya Sekor lenses:
- 2 wide-angle lenses
- 55 mm f/4.5 and 65 mm f/3.5
- 4 normal lenses
- 80 mm f/3.7, two versions of 80 mm f/2.8 and 105 mm f/3.5
- 3 telephoto lenses
- 135 mm f/4.5, 180 mm f/4.5, and 250 mm f/6.3
Every lens has its own Seikosha (chrome) or Seiko (black) leaf shutter system with a shutter speed of B, 1' -1/500 sec, X or M flash synchronisation and bulb mode.The C330 camera has two shutter release buttons, an automatic conversion film counter 120/220, an indicator of the film in use, a removable back cover, a hexagonal distance scale rod for the different lenses, automatic parallax compensation, an automatic exposure factor indicator and interchangeable focusing screens.
Accessories[edit]
Porrofinder with CdS cell
- 7 interchangeable screens for focusing (matte, split image 4°, split image 6°, microprism, microprism + split image 45°, cross-hair and checkerboard pattern.
- 3 types of finders: a prismfinder, a porrofinder and a CdS-porrofinder (with a built-in CdS exposure meter).
- Three types of magnifying hoods: normal focusing hood, CdS magnifying hood and a magnifying hood 3.5× or 6×.
- Two paramenders for parallax correction
- gripholders and pistol grip
- backplates for sheet film
See also[edit]
Wikimedia Commons has media related to Mamiya C330. |
External links[edit]
Wikimedia Commons has media related to Mamiya cameras. |
- Mamiya TLR System Summary by Graham Patterson (covers all Mamiya c-series cameras)
- Mamiya C330 Professional by luis triguez
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